Does winning a Vezina Trophy automatically garner respect for Tim Thomas?
Throughout the various hockey-related forums that I go to there always seems to be a topic about Tim Thomas and his legitimacy as a goalie. Many Boston Bruins fans feel Thomas is in the top 5 elite goaltenders in the league, while fans of other teams see him as a fluke.
So we here at Something’s Bruin want to know one thing:
Does winning a Vezina Trophy automatically garner respect for Tim Thomas?
Many will look at this season and deem Thomas a one-trick pony, but to fully respect Thomas as a goaltender, one has to look at the complete body of work.
Year
GP
Wins
Losses
GAA
S%
SO
2005-2006
38
12
13
2.77
.915
1
2006-2007
66
30
29
3.13
.905
3
2007-2008
58
28
19
2.44
.921
3
2008-2009
54
36
11
2.10
.933
5
The 2005-2006 season is a wash, in my eyes, because Thomas was splitting time with Steve Shields and Shields was designated as the starter. In 2006-2007 season, Thomas was given full reign on the team and by those numbers, her certainly didn’t disappoint.
Is the 3.13 average a little high? Sure, but what do you expect?
Let’s take a look at Broduer when he first came into the league. His first full season was in the 1995-1996 season. Broduer played 77 games, had a record of 34-30-12, a GAA of 2.34 and a S% of .911. Those are pretty similar numbers to Thomas’ first season, although many people will be sure to point out age differences.
What about Hasek? Hasek was a Vezina Trophy winner in this current decade. Hasek’s first full season was in the 1993-1994 season where he played 58 games for the Buffalo Sabres. In that season, Hasek went 30-20-6 with an astonishing 1.95 GAA and a S% of .930. Obviously these stats are much better than what Thomas produced his first full season.
“But Pezell, you’re comparing Tim Thomas to two legends in Hasek and Broduer!” I am well aware what I’m doing as I’m trying to prove a point. Thomas has put up pretty similar numbers his first full season, then continued to get better despite getting the nod in his lower-, and now mid-30s.
The way I see it, a Vezina Trophy can mean praise (Kiprusoff, Broduer) or it could be a damning point for a goalie (Theodore, Kolzig) that eventually will fade into oblivion after a stellar season.
So what’s your take on this? Does Tim Thomas deserve some respect based off of his track record right now and the fact he is a Vezina winner or will he suffer the same fate of Theodore and Kolzig and kind of fade into obscurity?
just watching him play personally I will never forget it, but I think it's possible for those that haven't might forget him. he isn't exactly a HOF'er, but definitely a memorable goaltender if you've watched him IMO
Simple answer is yes, he's definitely gained respect. I don't think he'll be around long enough to be another Theodore or Kolzig... at most he might have 1 or 2 bad seasons at the end of his career. That won't be enough to completely erode the legacy of 2 excellent seasons (and hopefully another on the way!).
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